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Reviewed By: Sardius [MediaMiner Member] On: April 18, 2003 19:38 CDT Comment/Review: I wasn't trying to flame. I wasn't trying to take pity, and I know what taking someone elses work means. So please I already said sorry what more do you want me to do? Everyone makes mistakes, just because I am someone that speaks this way, does not mean I was trying to take pity and push the blame aside. I did say beforehand that the manga came from Obsession and even gave links to people so they can read it. I admit I didn't state the website or the person that had translated it. So I have to say I was in the wrong. But in my author's note, I have told people where the original work came from. And they know it and they have read it. So please don't say I didn't put anything up because I did.
As for creativity, please don't put mine down. I have many fics that ARE original ideas. I think wildfaeries was the only one that addressed that so I thankyou you.
And once again, why do people always misinterrpret things? I was referring to friend as real life friends not net friend. I never claim the group Obsession as friends in the first place if that is what killerpixies were thinking.
Lastly can we please drop this issue now? I have already expressed my apologises, there is no more need to comment any further about credits and copy right issues. I think I know that myself. |
Reviewed By: wildfaeries On: April 18, 2003 16:28 CDT Comment/Review: First of all I want to say the final chapter was great. I'd love to read more original works by you.
My only thing is: If only the last chapter was your own work, why not just write the last chapter and heavily reference the theme from Utau Noraneko? I think fanfic readers if they really love your fanfic would be more than willing to check out the original story WITH the original characters if they wanted to understand what you're basing your fanfic on. I was extremely disappointed in the lack of originality in the first 2 chapters. :(
The individuals who work hard translating and providing the scanlated work to us (note: I'm referring to Utau Noraneko from the Obsession scanlation team) deserve credit every time you plagarize their hard work. These individuals take time out of their busy schedule to provide scanlated manga to the public.
In particular, the mangaka of Utau Noraneko DESERVED credit and recognition in each chapter for the majority of your fanfic. The majority of your fanfic wouldnt have been possible if the mangaka had not created Utau Noraneko.
I think you need to understand that it is a BIG deal when you don't credit someone for their hard work. How would you feel if someone took your fanfics, used them nearly word-for-word, and didnt bother to credit you for it? Are you saying it wouldn't be a big deal for you? If you understand this, you'd also understand why people who read your fanfic are commenting on it. Don't flame about the criticisms you're receiving. Take it like the truly popular and (for the most part) original author you are, and work hard on creating your own future works.
And just for future reference, changing a few words here and there while maintaining, for the most part, the original work of another IS plagarism, in case you didn't know. Originality is yours when you create it all from scratch.
Once again, I wanted to say I enjoyed the last chapter and want to re-iterate the importance of crediting and referencing the hard work of others.
Best of luck on your future fanfics. I look forward to reading more of your works. |
Reviewed By: Tea-chan On: April 18, 2003 16:28 CDT Comment/Review: Sardius, ITS NOT RIGHT using other people's works without giving them a credit. When you do something create something new. Truth cant even let you have a good defence: "In the former two parts well there are some differences too". It should have been completely different with just a few hints close to the original story. If you want to refer to the original REFER to it not rewrite. I hope you dont have to do the same thing each time you come up with a fic. You are not that bad |
Reviewed By: Sardius [MediaMiner Member] On: April 18, 2003 07:01 CDT Comment/Review: Sigh...well basically I don't know what to say. I already stated beforehand this DJ was from the Obsession website and clearly wrote I am using the same plotline but replacing the characters into Yohji and Aya instead. But it wasn't enough. Anyway, I suppose that is the way with life. We got the war, we got the SARS and people just love hurting other people's feelings. I apologize to Cirrus for using her translations but there is no need to be so blunt about it. And no need to swear. Personally you could have just email me. You know, I was never meant to use this as an original fanfiction. I never intended to take credit for it. I should thankyou you for translation and the group Obsession for providing us wonderful mangas to read. I am sorry. But one thing I would like to say, not everything in this fic is the same as the manga. If you would read it, then you will notice the differences. As for you and other people's opinions, maybe you don't realise it but how would you feel like it if someone told you, you are cheap, a thief, a worthless writer? I sure don't think you would feel all that great about it. Sometimes one have to realise these words can hurt people feelings even if at the time you wanted to vent out your frustrations. And in real life situations, sometimes you can't take these back and you will regret it oneday when you wish you still had that friend with you.
So I am sorry and express my deepest regret of ever writing this fic. And I am not someone that would track you guys down and flame you back. There is no need. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. |
Reviewed By: Lilla- linde.mondiaux@tiscali.fr On: April 18, 2003 06:53 CDT Comment/Review: To the people complaining about Sardius not giving credit where it is due I would like to point out that it is clearly stated in the first AN that this fic is a remake of the Yaoi doujinshi at obsession, which you all mention, Utau Noraneko.
Also well the third part is all Sardius' so I personally think that this fic isn't passable of being called plagiarism.
In the former two parts well there are some differences too but then if you want to find the similarities they are bound to be there as it is inspired by the doujinshi. As for the same dialogues, you are no doubt referring to the whole I am a stray part... well the story wouldn't make much sense without it, would it?
There are plenty of good writers who have taken inspiration for their stories in other mangas animes or other. This doesn't make them bad writers rather it is the ability to take something known and make out of it something new and different that makes a good writer. I think Sardius did that!
Similarities are bound to be evident in the first parts of such a fic as you start from the same background idea but then things evolve into something new and different. For a three part fic maybe that is less evident?
The lack of the clear link to the web site hosting the doujinshi I found a good precaution as we all know how it can create bandwidth problems and the dreaded direct linking messes.
Plus who amongst us yaoi fans doesn't know of Obsession? Great site by the way...
All in all I find that this flaming fest is uncalled for and would like to ask you to stop before Sardius swears off writing, as she is talking about doing, as I am sure we ALL don't want that, right?
Please if you do have comments to these few words refrain from posting further flames you can use e-mails...
On that subject *I* put my user name and e-mail addy for you to use for replies why not do that while you are flaming? It is a bit difficult to explain things to someone who only drops in and that way misunderstandings can't be cleared!
If you want to get back to me on the subject please refrain from posting here and use the address provided.
Send junk mail and die... ^.^ Sorry but got that problem at least once.
As for the writing skills comments I thought they were a just hateful we aren't all native English speakers you know... as far as I can see it comes down to not throwing the first stone.
Above all please let's all try to behave in a grown up and level headed fashion, OK? Hate mail and running off half cocked has never done anyone any good.
Thanks for reading
Lilla |
Reviewed By: Lilla On: April 16, 2003 05:11 CDT Comment/Review: This was too cool for words! Really you gave this such a good ending positively inspired especially liked how you managed to keep Yotan and Ayan IC with their former selves while getting them to sort of commit to one another! Also tehehheheh Yoatn shine for hurting my Ayan... (blinks I giggled? uhhh need sleep probably)
Anyway thanks for writing this for me. and also for writing in general!!!! You rock gal! |
Reviewed By: MiniMorr [MediaMiner Member] On: April 16, 2003 04:09 CDT Rating(s):Overall Rating: 10 of 10 Comment/Review: I cried.
This is definitely one of the best stories I've ever read - it's so beautifully written.
Thank you for sharing this with us! |
Reviewed By: Talon Sage [MediaMiner Member] On: April 15, 2003 23:22 CDT Comment/Review: Very nice Weiss interpertation of the yaoi manga story Utau Noraneko. *nods* |
Reviewed By: junajan On: April 12, 2003 05:53 CDT Comment/Review: hey that was FUN! |
Reviewed By: Akurei13 [MediaMiner Member] On: April 09, 2003 21:59 CDT Comment/Review: I liked this! Please update soon! |
Reviewed By: Pegah On: March 12, 2003 09:06 CST Rating(s):Enjoyment Factor: 10 of 10 Overall Rating: 10 of 10 Comment/Review: Kawaiiiiiii. I wish it had 200 chapters instead of 2.
I know i'm going to read it again and agin. |
Reviewed By: Karaj On: March 10, 2003 10:42 CST Comment/Review: SWEET |
Reviewed By: Neelam On: March 01, 2003 11:00 CST Comment/Review: Just lovly. I`m looking for the next chapter.
Please hurry. -_- |
Reviewed By: samereh On: February 25, 2003 12:28 CST Comment/Review: Lovly & Sweet! |
Reviewed By: Lilla [MediaMiner Member] On: February 17, 2003 06:56 CST Comment/Review: Heya Sardius-chan!
Just passing through and wanted to tell you how much I love this fic once more! I can't seem to say that enough! And it's for me Wahaha! I'm moved! (sobs) Anyhow it wasn't kind of you not to let me share the mistakes, mou I like them lots! Still Ok they are in your fic so they are yours! But hey if things go that way then the ones in EWO are all mine!!!
uhm better get going before someone calls farfie's taylor to get me a nice new (straight)jacket...
Ja ne
lilla |
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