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| "Red Digivice Diaries" Reviews/Comments [ 154 ] | | Pages (11): [ « ‹ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 › » ] | Reviewed By: Izumi Ryu On: April 08, 2003 10:53 EDT
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Thanks, Eclipse. Digi Advisor seems to have gone silent. *holds out "V" sign* We win. *shrugs* Oh, well.
I have considered writing a fic like this, but we'll see how well I can pull it off. Not a Digimon one, mind you, but just the same. I've only written Action/Adventure fics. It'll be interesting to try. | Reviewed By: Michelle On: April 07, 2003 09:30 EDT
Rating(s):Style of Writing: 7 of 10
Spelling & Grammar: 10 of 10
Originality/Creativity: 8 of 10
Enjoyment Factor: 7 of 10
Overall Rating: 8 of 10 Comment/Review:
What I like most here is the fact that you've managed to write a lemon fic that actually has a plot. You've heard it before, you'll hear it again. You've managed to introduce a few new things to the plot that I've never seen before. I think the biggest complaint I have is some of the phrasing I've seen you use.
While it does get dull to see the same things used over and over again, one simply does not refer to her breasts as 'mounds' as Sora did after she poured chocolate over herself. This isn't the only thing I've seen that seems just a little awkward. It's not exactly that I disapprove, it's just...strange to see certain things described in the ways you've described them.
Please do not take offense at this.
I hope you don't mind me reviewing some of your other fics in here as well...
One idea I found particularly interesting was the crossover with Tamers. (Birdramon, Guilmon). "The Shuffle" is one of my favorite fics out there, and I really can't wait to see what happens next. | Reviewed By: Dark_Phoenix_of_Chaos [MediaMiner Member] On: April 06, 2003 23:05 EDT
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....I hate it when she goes on my computer --;
*Eclipse no BAKA!!!*
anyways, great chapter as always....by the way....when are ya going to work on your Ranma fics...and when ya going to start "Cats Eye"? | Reviewed By: Dark_Phoenix_of_Chaos [MediaMiner Member] On: April 06, 2003 23:03 EDT
Rating(s):Style of Writing: 10 of 10
Spelling & Grammar: 9 of 10
Originality/Creativity: 10 of 10
Enjoyment Factor: 10 of 10
Overall Rating: 10 of 10 Comment/Review:
While, I may not agree totally on all character associations,I do agree with Izumi that this fic at least has INFORMATIVE backing to go with it.
Why do I doubt that the Ignorant Flame writer; Digi Advisor, has yet to stop Flaming the fic....
Congrats! ya gained a new reader for life! | Reviewed By: PJX On: April 05, 2003 16:32 EST
Rating(s):Style of Writing: 10 of 10
Spelling & Grammar: 8 of 10
Originality/Creativity: 10 of 10
Enjoyment Factor: 10 of 10
Overall Rating: 10 of 10 Comment/Review:
This is a crzy ass fict that leaves me hanging. Gawd write more! | Reviewed By: Lord Archive [MediaMiner Member] On: April 03, 2003 11:34 EST
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> I only read this fic once when I came across it out of boredom one day. All I was doing throughout the rest of time was criticizing!!!
Please try criticizing about something you actually know about. You have displayed little knowledge of Digimon and the real world.
> By the way, for your information, spankings don't work on rebellious teenagers! Who was your psychiotrist, Dr. Spock?
Hospitalizing the teen doesn't work either. For most teenagers that would make them MORE rebellious and prone to leave home at a young age.
How a teenager needs to be disciplined varies from person to person. In most cases revoking privaledges will work better that inflicting physical punishment on a child. But there are some kids that slapping them around is the only way to get their attention. If you paid attention to Digimon, you would know the Chosen would respond more to the former, where as only someone like Ranma from Ranma 1/2 or Yusuke from Yu Yu Hakusho would get better effect from the latter.
It's all a matter of a person's psychology, but if you understood anything about psychology-- then you would've understood what this story was about a long time ago and not offer short-sighted critizism that is of no help at all. | Reviewed By: Digi Advisor On: April 03, 2003 11:07 EST
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I said my peace with my final words to you. It's clear that you have a one-tracked mind. I won't go any further in this debate with you anymore since it'll only continue to wear on our nerves. You need not worry, I can find better fic writers.
PS:
I only read this fic once when I came across it out of boredom one day. All I was doing throughout the rest of time was criticizing!!! By the way, for your information, spankings don't work on rebellious teenagers! Who was your psychiotrist, Dr. Spock? | Reviewed By: Canis Black [MediaMiner Member] On: April 02, 2003 23:37 EST
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Digi-Advisor:
Ah to be able to see the world through the rose-colored glasses of ignorance.
Honestly, at least 50% of all teenage American males will admit to having had sex of some kind, even if it wasn't the traditional kind of sex. Blow jobs, hand jobs, etc. Those all count as a kind of sex. And for every person who says that they haven't had sex, it's probably a safe bet to say that at least one in twenty of those has and is just too embarrased or afraid to admit it.
You seem to know very little about romance in real-life as well, since you seem to think that it is without pain, screwups and other negative things. Hate to break it to you, but real-life romance has lots of those things. In a way it's like a rose, it can be really nice and all, but its still got its thorns and can hurt like a son of a bitch if you're not careful.
Even caring parents can make mistakes, and it happens all to often that parents attempt to mold their children into what they wish their children to be regardless of their children's feelings. This often done not because the parent doesn't care, but out of a misguided wish to have their children do better in life than themselves. There are also occasions when the parent believes firmly that his or her way is the right way, and that later in life the child will come back and thank him or her for sticking to his or her guns and making the child go through with it. I've actually experienced the last, when my mother insisted that I do something so that later I would not lament over lost opportunities, and you know what? I'm glad she forced me to do what she did because I ended up benefitting from it.
Whose says Miyako's parents didn't contact Daisuke's? In the American dub, his parents weren't exactly portrayed as being the model parents, so it's not too much of a stretch to think that they simply didn't care, or just gave Daisuke a verbal slap on the wrist and went on their way. Such things happen all the time in real life.
Properly discipling children is necessary, but proper discipline doesn't involve beating your child to a bloody pulp. I've been the recipient of corporal punishment before, and only on a handful of occasions can I remeber being hit anywhere other than my behind, and most often it was by people who weren't my parents.
Finally, I choose to take your comparison to Lord Archive as a compliment and I thank you for it.
Good day
Canis Black
"May you be plauged by rabid black mutt puppies."
- Anonymous Mental Ward Escapee - | Reviewed By: Lord Archive [MediaMiner Member] On: April 02, 2003 23:22 EST
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Digi-Advisor,
I don't not back down from my comments on Japanese view of sex. It is part of their culture where sex out of marriage is common place and accepted. That is hardly a racist statement. YOU are the one who is trying to make more out of it by placing derogatory words to it to make it racist.
I don't know anything about romance? How many times do I have to tell you this isn't a romance story. It's a story based on real life. Something you have demonstrated little knowledge of.
Miyako as a slut? Maybe, she is being a bit too free with sex. A flaw in character to make her more human. People make mistakes.
Miyako as a hooker? Guess you either aren't reading the story or you don't know what hooker means. Miyako would not resort to having sex for money.
Elaborate what about Mr. Ishida? Go watch Digimon if you want to know why he feels he screwed up with his life.
What self-serving parent would force their kid to do what they want? Man, what dream world are you living in? Parents have been entrapping their children to do their wishes for as long as there has been human history. This isn't true of all parents, far from that, but it has been a common occurance since before ancient Egyptians figured out how to write.
Of course the Inoue family told both Daisuke's and Koushiro's parents about Miyako sleeping with them. They weren't exactly pleased to learn that both parents knew and didn't inform them.
Slapping or spanking a child is discipline. Repeatedly punching a child and inflicting serious injury is child abuse. Vodka's statement was the latter, not the former.
Digi-Advisor, there is still a question you have not answered despite being asked about a dozen times: If you don't like my series, why are still reading it? I am not going to change my story because you disagree with it nor will I stop writing it no matter how much you annoy me.
Takako,
Yes, I am a little outdated in some of my information. However, while there are ultra-modern individuals in Japan, there are still people who hold dear to tradition. I try to base how traditional or modern they act by their protrayal in series. For example, Sora's mother was depicted rather strongly to be traditional, so I keep with older values for her. Miyako, on the other hand, was not protrayed with any sort of traditional view, so I try to use more modern point of view for her. But it is kind of hard when Japanese culture is rapidly changing.
As it is Hikari who is pregnant, abortion is not an option as it is abhorent to her very nature. I know very well that is treated as a form of birth control. 33% of all pregnancies in Japan end in abortion. What's more, no one has to know but the girl and her doctor.
As for cell phones, there has not been much need for them to be used or referenced. | Reviewed By: galrin [MediaMiner Member] On: April 02, 2003 20:51 EST
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Um... I don't mean sound all too critical Lord Archive, but you're a bit... outdated with your view on Japanese people. You have the common view of the japanese that pretty much applicable to the 1980's.
The idea of honor, family tradition, etc in Japanese society is falling to the wayside rapidly as it becomes replaced with materialism and sometimes harsh modernism.
It's not much of a exaggeration to say that the japanese are becoming more and more like, say, americans.
So you get a girl pregnant. The question asked in Japan by the teenage girl is not what she will name the baby but rather on whether she can afford to have an abortion or not. Sad but true. Next question asked is who cares outside that girls circle of family and friends. No one gives a rat's ass.
As for women regarded as sex objects... Japan is rather notorious for being rather sexist. Males are greatly preferred over females whether its intentional or not. I mean there is a special train car just for women so they don't get sexually assaulted by men.
Also, where are the cellphones Lord Archive? Japan is famous for it's cell phones. Nearly ninety percent of the population has cellphones of all shapes and sizes. I mean in the digimon movie where all those people take out their cellphones when they ring, it's not a exaggeration. Everyone has one! I've seen five year olds carting them around! | Reviewed By: Gray On: April 02, 2003 18:05 EST
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You know DigiAdvisor, "beat the living daylights out of my child" isn't proper discipline, it's child abuse. If you think beating up a child is a good means of discipline I pray that you never have children. | Reviewed By: Digi Advisor On: April 02, 2003 14:51 EST
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"Daisuke is a normal teenage boy who, when given a chance to have sex, he will have sex. That's true of every damn country in the world. Out of every senior high school student who graduates in America a virgin, a non-virgin graduates as well.
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That's not practically true. Yes it's true that many boys would have sex, but not every boy in America or elsewhere for that matter.
"Third, Japanese boys are taught to be 'manly.' It is EXPECTED of them to have sex prior to marriage...Japanese girls are NOT expected to be virgin brides unless they're of noblity and/or in an arranged marriage. Miyako is neither. It's expected that boys will experiment, so it's only natural that girls will be experimented on."
These were your words Lord Archive. I found this statement rather insulting to all Japanese people and their dignity. If anything, I'd say one would regard that statement as racist! You're saying all Japanese females are sex objects to be used for one's exploit, and that Japanese males are nothing more than sex driven animals. This is an abomination to all human dignity. If you had any sense of honor you wouldn't have said that statement.
"Fourth, this applies to Daisuke as well: For a story of this nature and length I can NOT have the characters fall into perfect little romances where sex is only about love. That's not true in real life, so it's not going to be true here either. Some characters need to make mistakes, especially considering the ages they are protrayed to be in this series."
You know little...Opps, my mistake; you know nothing about romance in real life!
Yes children will make mistakes in their youth, but this was...you know what, words can't even describe what I what to say here.
"Second, Miyako has been protrayed by Toei to be the most outgoing of girls. A type of girl who may very well play around with the boys a little. I personally knew girls like her, and they certainly experimented."
You're portraying an innocent young girl as a slut. It's true that in the show Miyako is protray as an outgoing girl, but the show NEVER portray her as an out going hooker! Baka!
"All indications is she was a teenaged mother herself, though late teens. Anything she could do to stop them would make her a hypocrite."
There's a sharp difference in making mistakes as a teenager, growing up and raising a child not to make the same mistakes their parents did. Evidently I see that you know little of child discipline. Baka!
"Mr. Ishida messed up his life so much that he doesn't feel he has the right to interfer in his children's life in fear of doing something that'll mess their lives up as well."
If possible, elaborate! You know what, don't even attempt to!
"Mrs. Takenouchi is a traditional woman and wants Sora to follow in her footsteps. With her daughter practically married to Taichi while in high school limits Sora's future career goals and helps insures that Sora will take over the Floral Shop."
BULL!! What caring parent(s) would selfishly encourage such behavior and actions for their own self-centered objectives?
"Mr. Inoue, ah, actually he DID beat up Daisuke as mentioned in one of the War Diaries entries. The reason neither he nor his wife has done anything more is the 'damage' is already done. Stopping Miyako from having sex won't bring back her virginity. The only issue is pregnancy, which Miyako makes sure she is protected from that."
This doesn't help your argument whatsoever. Miyako should have gotten into trouble with her parents for that. The Inoue parents should have then notified Daisuke's parents about what Miyako and Daisuke did and let them deal with him.
Lord Archive, you're a disgrace to all Otakus! The only reason why I was reading this fic was to find reasons to say: "Kisama baka no bakara!!"
And Canis Black:
After reading Vodka's comments and yours, I see that you're on the same level as Lord Archive...And that's not a compliment!!
Properly disciplining children, even physically, for terrible mistakes the children have committed IS NOT child abuse. In all societies, parents who care for their children would raise them with proper discipline, otherwise they'll grow up with no morals! | Reviewed By: Vodka On: April 02, 2003 11:37 EST
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Not much to say really. Do what you will. I really don't care. Kamaimasen... | Reviewed By: Lord Archive [MediaMiner Member] On: April 01, 2003 23:29 EST
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> You turned Daisuke into a sex crazed maniac. That was totally OOC!
First, where in Toei's canon ever said Daisuke will only sleep with his future wife? How Daisuke will approach sexual situations has never been handled by them, and frankly never will be. About the only OOC classification one could slap on him is having him be strictly homosexual and never had interest in girls. (And for the yaoi ficts with that: What about Hikari? Is she a cross-dresser?)
Second, Daisuke is a normal teenage boy who, when given a chance to have sex, he will have sex. That's true of every damn country in the world. Out of every senior high school student who graduates in America a virgin, a non-virgin graduates as well.
Third, Japanese boys are taught to be 'manly.' It is EXPECTED of them to have sex prior to marriage.
> Miyako wouldn't just spread her legs to just any guy like some slut.
First, it's been to three guys. Daisuke-- who is her pseudo-boyfriend, Koushiro-- who she attempted to have a serious relationship with, and someone she doesn't know because she was upset at Daisuke ditching her at a club. That hardly goes for 'any guy.'
Second, Miyako has been protrayed by Toei to be the most outgoing of girls. A type of girl who may very well play around with the boys a little. I personally knew girls like her, and they certainly experimented.
Third, Japanese girls are NOT expected to be virgin brides unless they're of noblity and/or in an arranged marriage. Miyako is neither. It's expected that boys will experiment, so it's only natural that girls will be experimented on.
Fourth, this applies to Daisuke as well: For a story of this nature and length I can NOT have the characters fall into perfect little romances where sex is only about love. That's not true in real life, so it's not going to be true here either. Some characters need to make mistakes, especially considering the ages they are protrayed to be in this series.
> And the way their parents took what everyone was doing was totally out of whack.
> I'd beat the living daylights out of my child if he/she was engaging in any of these activities at the young ages you placed the DigiDestined in.
Nice bit of child abuse there. Which would be out of cultural character. A child is more like to starve to death while being 'unloved,' a harsher form of being grounded where the parent ignores the child exists, than from being beaten to death.
Again, sexual activity is expected. Though not necessarily at the age the children are.
And how would you expect them all to act?
Mrs. Motomiya is the mother of Jun and Daisuke. She never put any real control on them before. She let Jun chase after a Yamato who is a few years younger than her. Having Mrs. Motomiya take the Japanese stance of 'having a manly son' a bit too far isn't a stretch of what meager characterization she has.
Mrs. Yagami was one of the driving forces behind Taichi's official engagement to Sora and in making Hikari get married. Frankly, Hikari and Takeru's punishment for having sex is being 'grounded for life.' They are going to have a baby to look after. Anything a parent could possibly do to them as punishment would be trivial at that point.
Ms. Takashi's family is screwed up royal in canon. Her father is not much older than her ex-husband. All indications is she was a teenaged mother herself, though late teens. Anything she could do to stop them would make her a hypocrite.
Mr. Ishida messed up his life so much that he doesn't feel he has the right to interfer in his children's life in fear of doing something that'll mess their lives up as well.
Mrs. Takenouchi is a traditional woman and wants Sora to follow in her footsteps. With her daughter practically married to Taichi while in high school limits Sora's future career goals and helps insures that Sora will take over the Floral Shop.
Mr. Inoue, ah, actually he DID beat up Daisuke as mentioned in one of the War Diaries entries. The reason neither he nor his wife has done anything more is the 'damage' is already done. Stopping Miyako from having sex won't bring back her virginity. The only issue is pregnancy, which Miyako makes sure she is protected from that.
One final point: I am not the creator of Digimon nor do I have Toei's master character biographs of these characters. As such, my views of these characters are subjective from my point of view. Even if I have ninety-nine people saying this is in character, there will always be the one who will disagree. I can not please everyone, no matter how much I try. | Reviewed By: Canis Black [MediaMiner Member] On: April 01, 2003 19:03 EST
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I know it's not my place, and that Archive is perfectly capable of defending himself, but I really felt the need to make my opinion know in this case.
Vodka, Archive uses the Japanese characterizations, which from what I have heard can be radically different from the American Dubs. Since the Japanese versions were first, anything that conforms to them is technically cannon and trumps the dubbed versions. This means that since Archive is basing Daisuke off of the Japanese version he's going to act quite a bit more like a normal person since as I understand it that's what he was like in the Japanese version of Digimon 02. And as a normal person, he will like most teenagers think that sex is great and quite likely get it whenever he has opportunity. As for his sleeping around, well Archive has basically explained that through the storyline of both this and War Diaries.
As for Miyako, I only recall her having had sex with Daisuke and Koushiro, and MAYBE one or two other guys. For the most part its been Daisuke since Koushiro broke up with her. This does not qualify as having "just spread[ing] her legs to just any guy like some slut."
And finally there's your comment about the parents' reactions. It's a totally different society, and quite frankly Archive appears to be much better informed on the ins and outs of it than I. As for your comment on beating the living daylights out of your children if you found them having sex with other kids their age, I really hope you know that that would be nothing more than child abuse, and is NOT what they would need. I sincerely hope that you grow up before you have kids.
This whole thing in general:
While it's amusing to watch Archive pick apart the flamers reviews, I'm really getting tired of seeing him do so. This is a work of fiction that has been classified as a divergence/continuation. That means there are going to be some changes to the known storyline, and like all changes these will be reflected through the characters actions. Also a continuation, or at least a good one, relies in large part on the author's perceptions of the characters in question as he or she continues to develop the characters above and beyond the development carried out by the show's designers and writers. Naturally there will be people who disagree with a writers vision of what the future brings, and if you are one of them then that is your right. However, if you truly find it detestable you don't have to make this known to anyone but yourself because you don't have to read it. If you don't like what the author is doing yet continue to read then please limit your criticisms to those that will be constructive.
I appologize if I have offended anyone or stepped on any toes, but as I said earlier I felt as if I had to put in my two cents worth.
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